Abbas: We’ll wave Palestinian flag in east Jerusalem

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  1. Janine says:

    AMEN & AMEN JOHN. You are a very patient man. Just gotta keep on believing and loving God and others! Revelation 12 sounds like pre-trib for the bride to me!
    Revelation 12:13-17
    The Woman Persecuted
    13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

  2. Janine says:

    Thanks for that John.
    Much clearer now.
    Revelation 12 is difficult for me to understand.
    Of course, I want to look up for His coming, certainly not the anti-Christ! Sorry for that misunderstanding!
    Thanks for your teaching article about His glorious coming! Sounds great to me! What a time to live!

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      I am replying so much to many people that I might have you confused.
      If I responded incorrectly, I apologize.

  3. Janine says:

    PS JOHN: I think you misunderstood because I was thinking maybe the woman who was given wings was the bride who was raptured away and protected???

  4. JD says:

    Keith
    To Test
    I like your pan-trib statement – everything will pan

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      JD.
      I really do not like my Comment Section being used to a promote a doctrine or another website.
      I do not post Comments when I catch this.
      You posted a link to a dangerous website which I edited from your Comment.

      I went to the doctrine section of this website and found a grievous error.
      This ministry does not believe in the blessed holy Trinity.
      This is what the statement stated about the person of God: God is the Word and He is One
      Nothing additional was stated, so this ministry is in serious error right “off the bat”.
      I suggest that you flee from this ministry, unless you believe like them, which I would like to discuss with you.
      They also have a ridiculous statement about the name of Jesus:

      “Yeshua basically means “Salvation” in Hebrew. Through transliterations from Aramaic/Hebrew to Greek to Latin to Old English to modern English, He is now often known as Jesus.
      Because of this, the unfortunate reality is that many do not know His name nor the meaning of His name …”

      Jesus is a direct translation from the Greek into English. It is the CORRECT word in English. It did not go from Hebrew to Latin to Old English to modern English. This is pure bunk.
      My name is John while translating it into Russian, I am Ivan. This is what the Bible did with Jesus, and it is proper and correct.

      The Bible then tells us what Jesus means. It means SAVIOR!
      Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

      From the very opening chapter of the New Testament, we know what the name of Jesus means.

      This is all I need to know that this ministry is in serious error and promoting an agenda that is not from the Bible.
      I do not like this promoted on my blog.
      Thanks
      God bless you.

  5. Anne says:

    Keith: None of Comments are left to be posted.

    My reply to why the Sabbath is “so important to me” was not posted.

    • Keith O. says:

      Anne, Yes. Isn’t that curious? Same here. I tried posting these three verses from Ezekiel:
      Eze 46:1 ¶ Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
      Eze 46:2 And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of [that] gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening.
      Eze 46:3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons.
      Then I had some observations of my own. I think I see what’s going on here. Too bad, really. I’m sure you’ll never see this comment, though, either. God bless.

      • JohnMcTernan says:

        Keith,
        This has nothing to do with the church.
        The church is complete and will rule with Him.
        The people on earth are not part of the church.
        There is an entire new worship system and not under the law of Moses.
        It is under Jesus Christ and is called the Law of the House.

        Ezekiel 43:11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.
        Eze 43:12 This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

        Eze 44:5 And the LORD said unto me, Son of man, mark well, and behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears all that I say unto thee concerning all the ordinances of the house of the LORD, and all the laws thereof; and mark well the entering in of the house, with every going forth of the sanctuary.

        Under the law of the House there are no First Fruits, Pentecost, Trumpets or Yom Kippur.
        Yom Kippur is sitting on the throne in the Holy of Holiness in the person of Jesus Christ.
        There is no Ark of the Covenant, Menorah, show bread etc. Because the Lord is in the temple.

        The law of the House is not the law of Moses.
        If you want more detail on this, see my book Only Jesus of Nazareth Can Sit on the Throne of David as it is about Ezekiel 40-48.
        Once again, I will state the law of Moses is not in effect as we are under the New Covenant.
        When the Lord Jesus is ruling over the nations, it will be over the law of the House and not the law of Moses.

  6. Tom says:

    Keith;

    Mishteh means feast in Hebrew and has everything to do with food and drink as I accurately portrayed in the case of Chick-Fil-A. You are totally wrong in your assertion that the KJV Bible refers to what I wrote as seasons (Mow` ed).

    Mow` ed in Hebrew means:
    Appointed
    Appointed Feast
    Appointed Festival
    Meeting Place
    Seasons

    Two separate issues regarding Feast that you combined together ad lapidem. This is why you are so confused.

    Gut Yontiff

    In His Service,
    Tom

  7. JD says:

    Oh dear
    Thanks for that John
    I really appreciate you writing all that. I will certainly be checking that out! I grew up on ‘the Trinity’. I hear you. Some things are disturbing & confusing I must say! I have to be led by His peace. And I just know I’ve got to simply continue to believe in Him, love Him and others, and the rest will take care of itself. AND LOOK UP!
    I must study the Trinity in His word.
    I found the scripture they must have got that from.
    “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!” Deuteronomy 6:4
    My understanding of the Trinity is:
    The Godhead as one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
    Some notes I found:
    Other biblical passages clearly tell us that two distinct individuals, the Father and Jesus Christ the Son, are both God (Hebrews 1:8; John 1:1)
    This may be how a scribe who heard Jesus quote the verse in Mark 12:29-30 understood it. The scribe responded in verse 32 (NRSV): “You are right, Teacher; you have truly said that ‘he is one [Greek heis, which corresponds to echad in its multiple meanings], and besides him there is no other'” —which seems to indicate that this is what he understood the word rendered “one” to mean in the expression (in essence, “alone”).
    This would not rule out Christ from being God along with the Father.
    Rather, there is no other God apart from the true God—that is, outside the God family now consisting of the divine beings, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. In short, the God family alone is God.
    Another view of … God is One is based on the root word from which echad is derived— achad. This word means “to unify” or “go one way or other” ( Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible ). In other words, echad can also mean in unity or a group united as one.
    God the Father, the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ the Son are clearly of one mind and purpose. Jesus said of His mission, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work” and “I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me” (John 4:34 ; 5:30).
    No matter which translation we accept—whether “The Lord our God, the Lord is first,” “The Lord is our God, the Lord alone,” or “The Lord our God, the Lord is one [in unity]”—none limits God to a singular being. And in light of these scriptures we’ve seen and others, it is clear that God is a plurality of beings—a plurality in unity. In other words, The Father, The Holy Spirit and Jesus the Son form a family perfectly united as one.
    ???
    Will keep studying!
    You’re a blessing John.

  8. In him we live and move and have our being. He is our all in all. What is so difficult to understand that the whole OT were pictures and shadows pointing the way until The Way became flesh and dwelt among us? I need Nothing but Christ, he is the Living Word and the Fulfillment of All the Scripture. He reveals the Loving and long suffering nature of an Awesome and Mighty God who because of his love for me made a plan to redeem me. He is my Passover,because of him I won’t suffer eternal death and separation. He was flat and not puffed up on a slab in a tomb (Unleavened) He is the First Fruit of which now there are many. He is the wave offering. What is the Altar without Him??Useless! Animal blood never took away sin just covered it over from year to year. Who needs more than Christ? He Alone is the Author and Finisher of my Faith. Without him to plead my case how could a worm such as I even entertain the thought of standing in the court of the Almighty Creator. Again BLESSED ARE YOU LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE WHO HAD F-U-L-F-I-L-L-E-D THE LAW THROUGH JESUS MESSIAH AND COVERED me with HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS!
    TEACH ON Pastor John they will get it I hope.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      hey, preach it as the message was focused on the Lord Jesus and GREAT!!!

    • Thank you so much Gramma Lovey for that wonderful message! God bless you!

      Maranatha!

    • Keith O. says:

      Gramma Lovey, Please consider this verse: Mat 5:17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
      With emphasis on the word prhase, “to fulfil”:
      Strong’s G4137 – plēroō πληρόω
      Transliteration
      plēroō
      Pronunciation

      plā-ro’-ō (Key)

      Part of Speech
      verb

      Root Word (Etymology)

      From πλήρης (G4134)

      TDNT Reference
      6:286,867
      Vines
      View Entry

      Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full

      a) to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally

      1) I abound, I am liberally supplied

      2) to render full, i.e. to complete

      a) to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim

      b) to consummate: a number

      1) to make complete in every particular, to render perfect

      2) to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)

      c) to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise

      1) of matters of duty: to perform, execute

      2) of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish

      3) to fulfil, i.e. to cause God’s will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God’s promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment

  9. Gramma Lovey, Please consider this verse: Mat 5:17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    Keith is that not what pastor John has been telling you?He FULFILLED ALL OF THE LAW. He paid the price for our lawlessness he did it already he is the Passover, Death will pass over us because he died, he is the firstfruit and the unleavened bread. It is Finished ONCE AND FOR ALL! We don’t have to crucify him anymore or keep certain Sabbaths because HE IS THE SABBATH AND OUR REST. We don’t need these road signs anymore because we have ARRIVED at the cross and now WE are commissioned to point the way to his second coming. Now we teach and preach instead of figuring out the road map. We are invited to a Wedding feast and must take as many with us as possible. Pray Keith for the Wisdom of a Child. If you have a repented heart and love him, he forgives you and loves you. That is All there is. We don’t need anymore. If you love someone you emulate them. Older couples finish each others sentences and know what the other is thinking. That comes from Relationship. He wants relationship and now we can have it because his blood made us worthy. We are no longer lawless he covered us with his RIGHTEOUSNESS and now we have what the feast keepers did not. We can enter the Holy of Hollies and speak directly to him every day! Praise God! Thank You Lord Jesus!

    • Keith O. says:

      Gramma Lovey, Then why is Jesus teaching the Law(towrah) again in the millenium if we are no longer required to keep it?
      Mic 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
      Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
      And I wonder, too, who are “those who work iniquity” or as NKJV renders it “practice lawlessness” regarding these verses:
      Mat 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

      Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

      Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

      • JohnMcTernan says:

        Keith.
        You are all confused.
        The Law of Moses has ended. It has passed away, and we are now under the New Covenant.

        Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
        Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
        Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
        Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
        Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
        Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

        The Law of Moses will not be enforce AFTER the church age, but it will be the Law of the House.
        The Law of the House contains some elements of the law of Moses but it is radically different.
        Now since you are trying to mix this altogether, I am challenging you to reconcile the law of the House with the Law of Moses.

        Ezekiel 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
        Eze 43:11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.
        Eze 43:12 This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

        Keith for you continue on the Comment Section with this line of yours, you must answer one question:
        must all male believers in Jesus Christ be circumcised according to the law of Moses? If yes why and if no why.
        According to the law of Moses, if non-Jews are to keep the Passover, they MUST be circumcised. You are promoting keeping the Passover as part of obedience,
        so a requirement to keep it is circumcision.

        Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD,
        let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it;
        and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

        • Keith O. says:

          John, You said, Keith for you continue on the Comment Section with this line of yours, you must answer one question:

          I don’t claim to have all the answers, John. I never have and only will when learning directly from the source as is pointed out in Hebrews 8:11 will any of us sort it all out. If that means that my next comment #141 won’t get posted, so be it. If my comments and line of thinking is going down the wrong path, I ask the Lord to correct me. Like I said, I only have the best intentions when it comes to serving God. I just have questions-that’s all. But what I’ve learned with the church is that it’s okay to have questions-so long as you end up conforming to their line of thinking and sit there in silence while things that you know are wrong are being preached. That is why I’m done with the denominational church-they cling to man’s traditions and reject the law of God. Perhaps that sounds familiar, as Jesus encountered the same thing. One thing is for certain, God is pouring out his spirit in these last days on His people. And there’s nothing any one man can do to stop it. If the road that I’ve been looking at is wrong, I pray God blocks me from going down it-but if it’s right then I pray He leads me down it. May God guide and direct all of us. Someday I look forward to meeting you face to face in heaven. Thanks. Keith.

          • JohnMcTernan says:

            Keith,
            I repeat my question: according to the Torah, do males now have to be circumcised to keep the Passover?

            Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD,
            let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it;
            and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

            I noticed that you were trying to teach people on here about keeping Passover, so please teach us about Exodus 12:48.
            It is a very simple question.

          • Keith O. says:

            John, I would have to study the question of circumcision out further in order to provide a biblical intelligent answer. I’m concerned with keeping the feasts because they are the Lord’s feasts(appointed times).
            (Removed by Administrator)

            Certainly you’ve seen my posts about the blood moon tetrads occurring back to back on Passover of 2014 and 2015 and Tabernacles of the same year. Along with total solar eclipses on the 1st day of the Hebraic calendar back to back also in 2015 and 2016. And a partial solar eclipse on Trumpets of 2016. Along with that, blood moon tetrads occurred in 1949/1950 and 1968-though these weren’t on feast days, they were near to Israel’s re-birth in 1948 and recapturing Jerusalem in 1967.
            That is why I find it worth a look. You’d have a better shot a winning the lotto than to have those signs occur on the days they do. AND I don’t have a problem with obedience to God’s commandments. I love my Lord-but I must love Him as the Bible defines love-not me.
            1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

          • JohnMcTernan says:

            Keith said, “John, I would have to study the question of circumcision out further in order to provide a biblical intelligent answer.
            I’m concerned with keeping the feasts because they are the Lord’s feasts(appointed times).”

            You are concerned with keeping the feasts, so why are you not concerned with being circumcised which is a requirement to keep the Passover?
            You should be preaching circumcision along with Passover as they go together.

            Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it;
            and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

            My question is not complicated: to keep the Passover must a male be circumcised, if not why not?
            I will give you a big hint on this, read Galatians 5.

            Now I deleted part of your Comment because it was about the Feasts and you failed to answer my question.
            You cannot post about the Feasts and until you have thought through what you are teaching.

            Regarding 1 John 5:3 which you seem to be applying to the law of Moses.
            I John tells us what the these commandments are that are not grievous, and it is not the of Moses.
            The following are the New Testament commandments which are not grievous:

            1John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
            1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
            1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

          • Keith O. says:

            John, Perhaps you are deleting my(and others) post(s) because you are convicted by what is said. I won’t continue with your little rules and conditions as it is like fighting with one hand tied behind one’s back. That’s okay. It’s your ball, your bat, your blog. We will all stand individually someday to give our account to the Lord.

          • JohnMcTernan says:

            Keith,
            This is getting old.
            This is not a platform for your agenda.
            Until you answer my question to you about circumcision and the Passover, you can’t promote your agenda about the Feasts.
            You need to be grounded in the word of God before promoting your agenda on the feasts.
            Your refusal to reconcile circumcision and Passover as found in Exodus 12:48 tells me a lot about you.
            Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it;
            and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

            I even directed you to Galatians 5 which you refused to do.
            I see this as disingenuous on your part and just promoting your agenda.

            Until you reconcile circumcision and the Sabbath I will not let you post about it.

        • Janine says:

          ‘The Law of the house! WOW. All these different laws, abrahamic law, Mosaic law, now the Law of the house. My head is spinning. Seems so complicated. I thought Loving God was simple. I’m really confused now…. The Law of the House – must study what this is!

          • JohnMcTernan says:

            My book Only Jesus of Nazareth Can Sit on the Throne of David deals with the Law of the House and the Law of Moses.
            The Law of the House proves the law of Moses is no longer in affect.

  10. Jane says:

    Just happened to be reading Hebrews 7:12. “For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.” The people recieved the law under the Levitical priesthood. Jesus was from the tribe of Judah.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      Correct, we are not under the law of Moses, but under the New Covenant in the blood of the Lord Jesus as our High Priest!

  11. Janine says:

    From Sid Roth’s Book – The Incomplete Church (It’s Supernatural) – I think he explains it well. Having Christ at the centre, to provoke the Jew to jealousy.
    My Appointments/Feasts
    “God said in Leviticus 23:2, “The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.” In Hebrew, the word translated feasts means “appointments,” and the word translated convo- cations means “rehearsals.” These appointments (feasts) with God are not only Jewish appointments, not only biblical appointments, but God also calls them “My appointments!”
    There are seven specific appointments when God promises to meet with us. The first four were rehearsals of His First Coming and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. I believe the next two are rehearsals of His Second Coming. The seventh, the Feast of Tabernacles, is a rehearsal of the millennial rule of Jesus on earth. If you had attended a dress rehearsal (convocation) of His First Coming before it happened, you would not have missed it. The same is true today. Celebrating the rehearsals (convocations) will help you prepare for His return.
    In John’s Gospel, 660 of the 879 verses are directly related to events occurring at the feasts. How can you understand the Gospels unless you understand the feasts? Of course, you should never let a religious spirit put you under bondage to these rehearsals. Observance is not a matter of righteousness or salva- tion, but of blessing. Isaiah 58:13-14 says that those who observe the Sabbath are promised to be so blessed that they will “ride on the high hills of the earth.” Celebrating the feasts is not a “have to,” but a “want to.”
    God tells us that when we bless the Jewish people we will be blessed in return (see Gen. 12:3). What greater way to do this than by inviting Jewish people to great celebrations where God promises in writing to meet with us? The reason God’s glory will be released is because we will have such intimacy with Him as we yield completely to His Spirit. Every year our celebra- tion of the festivals will be different. We will lay down our agenda for God’s. (See Chapter 9 for ideas on how to celebrate the feasts.)
    Prepare the Way
    Paul wrote, “The Jews require a sign [miracle]” (1 Cor. 1:22 KJV). When we move into these God- appointed celebrations with Holy Spirit revelation and glory, miracles will take place, invoking jealousy in the Jews. Then the prayer of Jesus in John 17:21-22 will finally be answered. He prayed that the Jews and Gentiles would be one. The Jews will be grafted back into their own olive tree, and Jesus says that this com- bination of Jew and Gentile will cause the world to believe.
    Jesus is not returning for a fractured, powerless Bride. As the Body of Messiah is restored, we will do the same works as Jesus and even greater ( John 14:12). The greater works can only come when Jew and Gentile converge into One New Man. This super- natural unity of Jew and Gentile will prepare the way for the Lord. When the pattern is right, the glory will come down”

  12. Janine says:

    From Sid Roth’s Book – The Incomplete Church (It’s Supernatural) – (I think He explains observing the Feasts in a new Testament way with Christ at the centre quite well)
    “Observance is not a matter of self-righteousness or salvation, but of blessing. Isaiah 58:13-14 says that those who observe the Sabbath are promised to be so blessed that they will “ride on the high hills of the earth.” Celebrating the feasts is not a “have to,” but a “want to.” (By the Spirits leading in the individual – that none can boast)
    Celebrating Gods Feasts
    Prepare the Way
    Paul wrote, “The Jews require a sign [miracle]” (1 Cor. 1:22 KJV). When we move into these God appointed celebrations with Holy Spirit revelation and glory, miracles will take place, invoking jealousy in the Jews. Then the prayer of Jesus in John 17:21-22 will finally be answered. He prayed that the Jews and Gentiles would be one. The Jews will be grafted back into their own olive tree, and Jesus says that this com- bination of Jew and Gentile will cause the world to believe.
    Jesus is not returning for a fractured, powerless Bride. As the Body of Messiah is restored, we will do the same works as Jesus and even greater ( John 14:12). The greater works can only come when Jew and Gentile converge into One New Man. This supernatural unity of Jew and Gentile will prepare the way for the Lord. When the pattern is right, the glory will come down.
    My Appointments/Feasts
    God said in Leviticus 23:2, “The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.” In Hebrew, the word translated feasts means “appointments,” and the word translated convo- cations means “rehearsals.” These appointments (feasts) with God are not only Jewish appointments, not only biblical appointments, but God also calls them “My appointments!”
    There are seven specific appointments when God promises to meet with us. The first four were rehearsals of His First Coming and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. I believe the next two are rehearsals of His Second Coming. The seventh, the Feast of Tabernacles, is a rehearsal of the millennial rule of Jesus on earth. If you had attended a dress rehearsal (convocation) of His First Coming before it happened, you would not have missed it. The same is true today. Celebrating the rehearsals (convocations) will help you prepare for His return.
    In John’s Gospel, 660 of the 879 verses are directly related to events occurring at the feasts. How can you understand the Gospels unless you understand the feasts? Of course, you should never let a religious spirit put you under bondage to these rehearsals. Observance is not a matter of self-righteousness or salvation, but of blessing. Isaiah 58:13-14 says that those who observe the Sabbath are promised to be so blessed that they will “ride on the high hills of the earth.” Celebrating the feasts is not a “have to,” but a “want to.” (By the Spirits leading in the individual)
    God tells us that when we bless the Jewish people we will be blessed in return (see Gen. 12:3). What greater way to do this than by inviting Jewish people to great celebrations where God promises in writing to meet with us? The reason God’s glory will be released is because we will have such intimacy with Him as we yield completely to His Spirit. Every year our celebra- tion of the festivals will be different. We will lay down our agenda for God’s. (Sid Roth)

  13. Janine says:

    Some words on ‘Righteousness’ from the One New Man Study Bible’
    “We are the righteousness of God through Christ”
    We are made righteous by faith in Jesus’ Righteousness in us and grace. Righteousness is action. In the Hebrew and Greek it means to do right, to be just. When we are made righteous by our FAITH our behavior has to change. If it does not, see what John says in 1 Jn 2:3.
    This change in behavior comes from above, as evidenced by Paul’s reference to ‘the gift of righteousness’ in Rom 5:17 and 6:18. There is a lot each one can do to be a better person, but we can do so much more when faith and commitment to God bring us the gift of righteousness. Paul says in 1 Cor 6:9. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
    Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
    We need to know in the Jewish mind the word Believe requires the change in behavior that John was talking about in the verses quoted above”
    James 2:14-18
    What good is it, my brothers, if someone claims to have faith but has no actions to prove it? Is such “faith” able to save him?….
    Thus, faith by itself, unaccompanied by actions, is dead.
    18 But someone will say that you have faith and I have actions. Show me this faith of yours without the actions, and I will show you my faith by my actions!

  14. Janine says:

    Kieth.
    Have a read of Sid Roths Book – The Incomplete Church. My husband just started reading it and can’t put it down.
    http://sheekh-3arb.org/library/books/up_coll/The_Incom_Ch.pdf
    God/Yah Bless

  15. So are you saying Janine that the action of faith is keeping the feasts? I teach, witness, take care of the sick and afflicted, Pray for the sick, study the word, and try to be obedient to the Spirit. Praying daily and seeking God’s direction and so far he has Always been there for me. Provided for me. Answered prayer I pretty much talk to him all day long. I feel we have a great relationship even if I do let him down at times and don’t always live up to his expectations of me. He is my best friend. I am waiting and watching for his coming, I am filled with the Spirit and I Love him with all my being. In 60 yrs I have never kept a Hebrew feast and I have Never Ever felt the leading or need to. When he forgave my sins and covered me with his righteousness we began a long term relationship. I try to follow his example and he lets me know when I don’t. He teaches me, comforts me, directs me, heals me, listens to my complaints and sets me straight. Sometimes he sits back and lets me stew a little to test my strength and endurance and see what I am made of.
    He hated the pharisees because they tried to hang the Law around the neck of the people and constantly added things for them to do. Snakes and Vipers he said. Jesus is the Way, the Door, the only opening to escape eternal separation from God. We don’t need ANYTHING ELSE. Yes we are to do good works for the LOVE of Him but there is no work that buys Salvation. The Cross is the only bridge to eternity and repentance is the toll to get on the Highway to Heaven and Cross into the Kingdom. I don’t need a degree is Greek or Hebrew to understand that. And there is not one Jew who will be saved unless he bows his knee before that cross and recognizes who Christ is and what he has done for him personally. As far as Sid Roth is concerned I watch his program but am very skeptical of some of the signs an wonders being produced. Orbs of light, falling gold flakes and gems. Satan is a deceiver and I don’t find these happenings taking place in the early church where souls were being martyred daily. I don’t find any of those things in the NT. But in the new age church a little music produces all kinds and manors of wonders.Yet the early church grew because the resurrection of Christ was the attraction. Signs and wonders,(souls saved, the dead being raised and the sick being healed) were the signs that followed those who believe. I wonder if Paul ever got a Gold filling? Reminds me kind of the Catholic bleeding statues and pictures. Again Sid Roth is a good person but so is Joel Ostein and he does not preach the cross of Christ but the power of positive thinking. Be careful Lucifer is the Angel of Light who comes to illuminate us and show us another way. As for me I will content for the faith that was delivered to me by the Word of God and the teaching of the Holy Spirit. I will hold EVERY preacher up to the test of the word and if its “iffy” I can live without it. My Dentist does a great job. 🙂 Look for STRONG DELUSION. Find solid, grounded,men of God like pastor John to teach you and for heaven sake LISTEN instead of thinking you know more or have a Greater Revelation!

    • Gramma Lovey: You have a wonderful gift of getting to the truth of the matter in such a wonderful, easy to understand way. Your life experiences sound so much like mine. I have been praying about how to respond to Janine in a way that would show love but especially to caution her about where she is getting her “teaching” and you have done the job so perfectly. I was just going to add AMEN and AMEN to what you have written. You have explained so plainly why all these “things” people are doing are not needed for salvation. Our love for our Lord will just naturally have us doing things that God would have us do if we are tuned in to His Holy Spirit to lead and guide us.

      This statement you made: “In 60 yrs I have never kept a Hebrew feast and I have Never Ever felt the leading or need to. ” mirrors my thoughts exactly, only I could add another 8 years to your 60. Plus, I did recall a few verses of God’s Word that will verify exactly what you have said and what I also believe.

      So Janine, and others who are struggling with the question of what you must do and what commands you must follow, please read these verses and please be very discerning about who you listen to and what you are reading other than God’s Holy Word.

      Luke 18:17 (KJV)
      17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

      Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

      Galatians 2:21 (KJV)
      21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

      God bless all!

      Maranatha!

      • Janine says:

        She does doesn’t she. Bless he.
        Thankyou Barbara for those scriptures. I so needed to be reminded of them. Oh to be as a little child. As the Bible says – too much study makes you weary. And I am weary. I’m on my way home now from holidays to be like a child snuggling into Him and to help give my sister a lovely last year as she fights pancreatic cancer – whilst still believing for a miracle. Appreciate your prayers.

      • Mary E. says:

        Thanks, Barbara and GL for your excellent comments. I have been following this thread since the beginning and have pondered a response. I was drawn to the Messianic movement in the late 70’s,when Jews for Jesus,Zola Levitt,etc. were just getting attention. I am thankful for that, as my love for Israel and the Jewish people is even stronger. That said,in all of my experiences,I was never exposed to teaching that said we must keep the laws or the feasts. The focus was always, that Jesus fulfilled both. This came from Jewish believers not Gentiles.
        To Keith and Janine, John and others have done a wonderful job of trying to explain what the scriptures say about this subject. I understand your excitement in discovering your grafted in “Jewish Roots”,but your arguements are not grounded. If you believe we must follow the laws,then you must be prepared to follow all of them,not just some. John’s question regarding circumcision is valid and Paul addresses this in Acts ch.15. Also,please read the book of Galatians for more insight. As for the Feasts,I do celebrate some of them in my own way,with prayer and seeking the Lord. I give Him what He is due…reverence and my attention.

    • Janine says:

      Thank you. Gramma Lovey. Whatever I do has to be done in faith. I don’t want to judge what people sense to do by Faith. God can do that. I just want to keep on loving and trusting. As far as Sid Roth’s show goes an the gold teeth – well the people who claim these things are from God are answerable to Him if they are lying etc. I know I’ve just got to keep loving God and people whatever this looks like. You sound like such a loving person, the way you help people. God bless you. And thank you very much for all your wisdom. The last thing we want is to be deceived. I just want to live loving Him more than life itself!

    • Janine says:

      PS – I’m saying if some want to keep the feasts by faith we should leave them alone, not judge but love. By faith, I kept myself pure till my wedding day – and He gave me the grace to wait because it was led by the Spirit. Oh I so don’t want to live by the letter of the law but by the promptings of the Holy Spirit like this.
      As far as all this feast observance goes, Sid Roth and Gold Teeth ACTS 5:38 comes to mind.
      And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow it-lest you even be found to fight against God.
      I believe Sid Roth is a man so full of Gods love. He never appears to judge anyone and their faith. John was on His show you know. All the people in His show are answerable to God. I choose to just love them and let God sort it out!
      Hope this is ok. Bless you. I accept your words and wisdom in love. I know your heart is for me and not aginst me as my heart for you is too.

    • Mary E. says:

      GL,
      I thought of one of my favorite chapters,Isaiah 58,when I read your opening comments. Your words are wise and I believe,well intended. I,to am spirit-filled and agree with you on Sid Roth. He’s a wonderful man,but we have to use disernment with some of his guests. I believe the gold tooth thing started with Todd Bentley at his revivals,a glowing example of false miracles,signs and wonders. Strong delusion is a perfect description for many of the things I have seen in churches and in ministries,today and I wonder how long the Lord is going to continue to be affronted by it.

  16. Anne says:

    Janine, Thank you for that book recommendation. I will have to check it out. Gramma Lovey, what if the Spirit IS leading believers in Christ to observe the Feasts by faith?

    I can only give you my testimony. We have a son. A son that was very much wanted at birth. At the age of 5 he was sexually molested by an older cousin. We would find out in the spring of 2011, that suppressed memories would come back to him, revealing that he was molested three times. The last two was on Christmas Day (in 1994 and 1995 respectively). He is now in a homosexual relationship. Our son received Christ as a child, and was homeschooled all the way through until he graduated.

    In 2009, the Lord led us to start worshipping him on the Sabbath. The first Torah portion of the Parashah Vayera is Genesis 18:1-22:24. This concerns the story of the Lord’s appearing to Abraham at the Oaks of Mamre as he sat in the door of his tent in the heat of the day. While the three men were eating with Abraham, one of them announced that in exactly one year, He would return to them and Sarah would give birth to a son. When Sarah heard this , she laughed within herself at the suggestion.

    Fast forward, long after this FIRST Sabbath Parashah was read by my husband and I, I happened to be on http://www.hebcal.com, and I entered our son’s date of birth and converted it.

    Imagine my shock, when I discovered the year he was born, and the day was Nisan 15 on the Hebrew calendar. The very day the angels appeared to Abraham and Sarah, and one year later EXACTLY, the very day that Isaac was born.

    Ever since that time, God has continued to lead us. He has supernaturally blessed us (and materially blessed us) many times on Kislev 24 (the night before the first day of Chanukah).

    I have many notebooks that I call my “journals”. God has supernaturally made His Word come alive to us since we have honored Him through obedience.

    I am not afraid of going back under the Law of Moses. As a regenerated new creature in Christ, I understand that these are God’s appointed times. He is God and I am learning to follow and learn.

    Galatians 3:17

    King James Version (KJV)

    Gal. 3: 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      Anne,
      I think you are trying to justify keeping the Sabbath by posting Galatians 3:17 is that correct?
      If that is so, I want to address this.
      If that is not correct, why did you post it. Thanks

    • Anne: Let me in Christian love say that even though I’ve never felt led of the Holy Spirit to observe the Feasts, I do have a love for their meaning and certainly have no problems with anyone who has felt led to observe them.

      What I do have a problem with is someone telling me that God’s Word says we MUST observe the feasts and OBEY the commandments in the O.T. I have always had a tremendous reverence for the 10 Commandments and believe they are very, very important to observe as much as we are able. I also believe that the removal of the 10 Commandments from schools, courtrooms, etc. have been one of the things that has led to the downfall of our once great nation.

      Having said that, I want to address your use of Gal. 3:17. I have no idea what John has to say to you regarding this scripture, but my problem with it is that you have taken this one verse and evidently are trying to use it to make a point of some kind. What a dangerous thing it is to lift one verse out of context to try to prove a point. I just finished reading the whole text which actually seems to make the statement in Gal. 3:17 null and void. Please take the time to read the rest of the chapter.

      Galatians 3:17-26 (KJV)
      17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
      18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
      19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
      20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
      21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
      22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
      23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
      24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
      25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
      26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

      Please pay particular attention to verses 24-25. My heart breaks for those who are still trying to live under the law and the commandments given to the Israelites in the O.T. As John, Gramma Lovey, and others have said over and over. Jesus fulfilled the law and commandments. If we are truly worshipping our Lord, Saviour, and King–Jesus Christ and have given ourselves to Him, then we are indwelled by The Holy Spirit who will lead us in our actions and guide is into Truth.

      The danger in today’s time is that satan knows his time is short and is fighting “no holds barred” to keep God’s children confused and conflicted. There is so much information available on the internet now and especially in the area of “ministries”, so many of which are totally false. As believers, we must ever be on guard about what we read. Remember, that satan is an angel of light, even beautiful to the eyes, and so very deceitfult. Please remember this warning from Jesus:
      Matthew 24:11 (KJV)
      11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

      God bless us all!

      Maranatha!

    • Janine says:

      Hi Anne, you are most welcome.
      Wow, what a testimony.
      Our Lord is so amazing and faithful!
      You are so very courageous. I honour you.
      I’m looking forward to Jesus return so we can all be at peace, all questions answered and we all get along in love!
      My testimony – is that as I was praying one day I saw a Christmas scene and all the food laid out – and I heard that still small voice woo me away and show me His feasts that were dear to His heart, And how He was the centre of them all. Now I have so many wonderful feasts to celebrate with Him in a New Testament and Australian way. Bless you.

  17. Jane says:

    I really believe I was meant to find this discussion. Like Mary I was also drawn to the MessianicMovement. I do believe that seeing the gospel from the Jewish perspective gives us a deeper understanding. It has helped ground me in the absolute confidence in the Holy Scriptures as I see how perfectly the NT fulfilled the old. But after seeking answers in the New Testament I do not believe we have been called go back to the laws of Moses.

  18. Anne says:

    The Scripture says what it says. You know, John, if my testimony does not mean anything to you, nor the Scriptures, there is nothing else I can say.

    You can address it if you like, quite frankly, I don’t care. Satan knows Scripture and can use it as well.

    I’m done. Emotionally, I don’t have what it takes to “debate your take” on the Scripture.

    This blog is no longer edifying. I pray the Lord bless you with a greater understanding of His ways.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      You appeared to us a verse out of context to justify your keeping the Sabbath.
      I asked you very nicely about this.
      If you did not post that verse, I probably would not have responded, but you did.
      You cannot come to my blog and throw verses around without being challenged.
      My ministry is to defend and proclaim the faith and one issue that that has to be challenged is
      the Hebrew roots which is mixing the law of Moses with the New Covenant.

      • Keith O. says:

        You’ve got a lot of nerve telling Anne that she’s using something out of context. You deleted my post on the Sabbath day because because it made your previous comment about Jesus being the Sabbath and not a day to be false. Does this look familiar?:

        (Removed By Administrator)

        These don’t fit your paradigm. So you struggle with even seeing this. All I can tell you now is this: don’t take the mark. Because we won’t be raptured out of here before it comes-that’s why the Bible warns about it. We will see the man of perdition. I realize that these are bold statements, but I believe that this is a very real possibility. I ask you to go back and read all the scriptures that you’ve held as support of your pre-trib position(I did) and ask the Spirit to help you understand what He is saying-not the many commentators that you read on the subject-but what the Spirit is saying to you. May God bless and protect us all and see us through this time that is coming to the world. As I said before, I do look for the Blessed Hope-just at a later time-prior to the wrath of the Lamb.

        • JohnMcTernan says:

          Keith,
          It is obvious that you are on a mission and your failure to respond to my question is shocking.
          You want to go into the 1000 year reign of the Lord and yet can’t answer a simple question about Passover under the Law of Moses.
          Until you answer the question about circumcision, we are at a stalemate.
          I am doing this for your own spiritual understanding of the New Testament.
          This is very simple to answer by going to Galatians 5.

          Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it;
          and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

          I am not here for your personal attacks. You are amazingly arrogant to assume that he get my doctrinal understanding from commentaries.

          Here is my understanding of the pre-tribulation rapture. http://www.defendproclaimthefaith.org/the_coming_of_the_lord_jesus_his_church.html
          It is my teaching after years of studying prophecy about the coming of the Lord for His bride.
          It will do you good to study it as it will challenge your doctrine and give you a new look at the Blessed Hope.

        • Keith O. says:

          You defend and proclaim the faith according to John McT. You remind me of Saul holding the cloaks and looking on with approval as Stephen was stoned. So be it. By two or three witnesses a matter is established. That has been done. What you do with it is entirely up to you at this point.

          • JohnMcTernan says:

            Keith,
            It is best that you do not post again in the Comment Section as you are getting harder and harder and the personal attacks are more pronounced.
            Your failure to answer the question about Exodus 12:48 remains a stigma against you and your agenda.
            When are ready to answer the question, come back.
            No more posting until you are able to answer whether circumcision is a requirement to keep the Passover.

  19. Anne says:

    I am amazed also that the one Scripture I posted in the post where I gave my testimony how God supernaturally confirmed to us that we were to worship on His designated day ordained (the Sabbath) is the

    ONLY thing you chose to focus on from the whole thing !!!

    Have you ever watched the movie, ‘The Shunning?”

    This whole discourse reminds me of it.

    Again…NOT A WORD about the revelation that God gave us and confirmation.

    Here is the thing. I am going to listen to God’s voice before any man’s.

    I am betting that this post will not make your blog either (just like the one I posted last week answering your question as to why worshipping on the Sabbath means so much to me)

    The question is “why Sunday?” Roman Emperor Constantine set up Sunday worship in 312 A.D.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      Anne,
      If you tried to justify your revelation with Galatians 3:17, then yes I am going to challenge you over it.
      That is why I asked you the question.
      The word of God is the final authority and not your revelation.
      If you try and use Galatians 3:17 as part of your revelation, then I reject it.

      You still appear to lack understanding about the Sabbath as it is now the person of the Lord Jesus Christ.
      It is not a day but a person.
      You want to argue over the day of Sabbath worship and I showed over and over again that it is not a day but the person of Jesus Christ.
      You talk about a day while I talk about the person of the Lord Jesus as my Sabbath rest.

      I am so delighted to have challenged you over Galatians 3:17 as your colors are now out in the open.

      For your own sake, focus on the Jesus Christ as your Sabbath rest and it will keep you from heresy.

      • Anne says:

        You worship on a day (Sunday). What is the difference?

        My “revelation” (as you put it) has nothing to do with the Scripture I chose to add at the last.

        It was revealed to me sometime between the Fall of 2009 (our first Torah portion reading) and sometime later concerning our son’s birth being on Nisan 15.

        I am not justfiying my revelation with Galatians 3:17. The Lord gave me that just last week.

        Here is the Hebrew date converter with my son’s date of birth.

        http://www.hebcal.com/converter/?gd=14&gm=4&gy=1987&g2h=Convert+Gregorian+to+Hebrew+date

        Again, my family (who knows me) already knows these facts.

        Again, I see no difference between me worshipping on one day and you another. Do you not worship on any day? (And I know about worshiping God every day and entering His rest every day). I am talking about corporate worship?

        You make it sound as you do not.

        The Scripture says the Servant of the Lord should not strive,

        You seem so intent on “pointing out my error”.

        I have the Holy Spirit. Are you able to admit that maybe God is not leading me as He is you?

        I do not lack understanding. I understand the Sabbath is now the person of Yeshua.

        I also know that although I choose to worship through Scriptural Messianic songs and worship , while you choose hymns and Sunday worship, that somehow I “lack understanding”, but you do not?

        As for focusing on the Lord Jesus Christ. I do that EVERY DAY.

        Again, you are finding “boogy men” where there aren’t any….just because one interprets the Scriptures differently than yourself.

        As for your challenging Galatians 3:17, I have not seen a Scriptural response saying that another Scripture is “false” or “untrue.

        God does not contradict Himself.

        • JohnMcTernan says:

          I answered this is a previous Comment.
          If you are not basing what you are doing on the law of Moses, be blessed.

          Why did you add Galatians 3:17 at the end of your comment?

  20. Anne says:

    Question: Are we saved to continue in sin?

    John, in all fairness, no one is “throwing around verses”.

    Not one Christian that chooses to worship on one day versus another has said on this blog that we believed we are justified by doing so.

    It appears that you have such a disdain for those who are truly born again, Spirit – filled, who feel led to do so as “trying to keep the Law of Moses”.

    The Law of Moses entailed a whole lot more than reading the Scriptures and singing on the Sabbath day.

    You want to paint every true Christian , justified by the Blood of Jesus alone, with a “broad brush.”

    We are talking about two different things here. Justification, or a closer walk with God.

    Do you ever look up a word from the KJV in the Hebrew or Greek? What is the difference?

    Sunday worship is not made clear in the Scriptures, but no where in the Scripture does it say that God changed the day of worship / rest from Saturday to Sunday.

    In fact, God kept the Sabbath so completely, that He did not even raise Jesus on the Sabbath, but after it was concluded on Saturday evening.

    King David danced before the ark of God as he had it brought into Jerusalem.

    Uzzah merely put forth his hand to keep the ark of God from falling, and he was smote there for his error.

    I certainly do not want to be as Michal the daughter of Saul who had no child unto the day of her death because she despised David’s freedom.

    But after saying all that, David understood what it meant to fear the Lord. The two stone tablets (Decalogue, or 10 commandments) were in that ark, and the mercy seat covered it.

    As long as Believers do not teach others that by choosing to worship on Saturday versus Sunday, or draw closer to learning of Christ in the Feasts, we are not at all at danger of teaching “heresy”.

    If you cannot respect my testimony as proof to God’s leading me, then there is nothing more I can say.

    You have had previous experiences with others who have been legalistic and unloving in their approach.

    Quite frankly, you don’t know me nor my lifestyle. I am very down to earth and have often thought of myself to be as the Apostle Paul , who knew himself to be “chief of sinners”.

    I am sorry if I come across brash. I played the trumpet when I was a child, and it fits my personality well.

    I have also been fighting a bad flu virus, so I apologize if I have seemed unloving.

    I am not going to change my convictions. They were born from a lot of personal suffering and leading from the Lord.

    I have followed your blog for a LONG time. In fact, I first read your book “God’s Final Warning to America” in 2001, and after reading it, the Lord gave me a prophetic word for the church we were attending at the time.

    It was not received. Three months to the day, the 9/11 WTC attacks occurred.

    God is getting ready to do a HUGE shaking in this nation.

    Everyone who hears the Spirit of the Lord better get their houses in order.

    Blessings

    It does not help when

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      Anne,
      There is an enormous amount of time being spent on Sabbath worship.
      I have no idea when you entered into this conversation.
      I stated that you are free to worship on the Sabbath or any day you want.

      My contention is when a person states, they do it to keep the law of Moses.
      I am actually happy that Friday night to Saturday night is your day of worship and be greatly blessed.
      What is am upset about is that Sunday worship is pagan or any other day is unscriptural.
      This shows a gross misunderstanding of the New Testament and the fact the Lord Jesus is our Sabbath.
      The Sabbath rest is the person of Jesus Christ.

      I talk about Him as my Sabbath because I am Christ-conscious. I never talk about worshiping on a day because we live in the New Testament.
      JESUS CHRIST IS OUR SABBATH. HE FULFILLED THE SABBATH REST, AND WHEN WE REST IN HIM WE LIVE IN THE SABBATH 24/7/
      The Lord is my PASSOVER. He fulfilled the Passover.
      Everyday is my Passover in Him. It is NOT one day in the Spring but everyday.

      I have no idea if you live like this, but your comments make we wonder.
      If you feel that it is obedience to keep the Sabbath, then do it and I will not say a word.
      If you feel it is obedience to keep the Passover, then do it and I will not say a word to you but be blessed.
      But, once you say it is because the law of Moses, then that is where the confrontation comes as this is not the New Testament in the blood of the Lord Jesus.
      I do not want hard feelings between us, yet at the same time if you base on what you are doing as obedience to the law of Moses and post it on the Comment Section, I will challenge it.

      The heresy that I mentioned was going into Hebrew roots movement.
      I have no idea what you are doing but that is why I said that.
      The more people go deeper into the Hebrew roots the further they get from the grace of the Lord Jesus and New Testament.
      They become self-righteous and not Christ-righteous.
      I want you to understand what it means to be self-righteous versus Christ-righteous.
      To become self-righteous and following the law of Moses is heresy and leaving the grace of the Lord Jesus.

      I hope you learned one thing from all this is the danger of self-righteousness when getting involved with the law of Moses vs Christ-righteousness in the New Testament.

      You posted Galatians 3:17 which raised an alarm.
      Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ,
      the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

      This is full context of this section of scripture.
      Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
      Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
      Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

      We are no longer under the law of Moses but the New Covenant which means the Sabbath is NOT day but the person of the Lord Jesus.
      He is our Sabbath rest.

    • Janine says:

      You might like torahclass.com by Tom Bradford
      He teaches to christians and messianics and goes very indepth. He shows how we can worship on anyday of the week and talks about the Sabbath day rest.

  21. Anne says:

    I forgot to add that not only did I read your book, “God’s Final warning to America”, but I gave dozens of copies to other Christians at the time. Somehow, I loaned my own personal copy out and now I no longer have it.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      This book is out of print.
      If you have not read my latest book, As America Has Done to Israel, I would like to send you a copy.
      If you want a copy, email me a mailing address to send it to.
      I am delighted the book was a blessing to you.

  22. Henry says:

    I thought that grace has always been the way anyone gets saved in the Bible, starting with Adam.

  23. Janine says:

    Galatians 5:18
    But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
    It’s the only way to live! Hopefully as we are led by the Spirit we feel loved and encouraged and not judged by our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.
    God Bless you all! xo

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      You are only lead by the Holy Spirit if what you are doing lines up with the word of God.
      You are not the final authority, but the word of God is.
      You need to be anchored in this concept or you could get into serious spiritual trouble.

  24. Janine says:

    Galatians 5:18
    But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
    This is the only way to live. In this way If someone feels led by the Spirit to do something and acts in faith they should be loved and encouraged by their fellow brothers and sisters. God knows if they are not being led by the Spirit and acting in self-righteousness and will deal with them in love. God Bless you all.

  25. Janine says:

    John. I understand your heart. Thank you for your care and concern. Your doctrine regarding pre-trib, trinity etc must be the correct one? And Sid Roths, Jewish roots, one new man doctrine must be wrong, as it doesn’t line up with the word, right? Sorry for all the trouble and causing you such concern. Blessings. Janine

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      I know Sid, and he never promoted keeping the law of Moses.
      I said over and over again, you are free to keep the Feasts as long as
      do not think it is required by the law.
      How many times can I say this from many angles?
      Please get anchored in the Lord Jesus as all I did was point you to Him.

      Are you questioning the Trinity?
      I will spend time with you if needed.

  26. Janine says:

    PS – Sid Roth says He is led by the Spirit to keep sabbath and the feasts to provoke the Jew to jealousy and its a blessing for him personally – Does that line up to the word of God? Because I felt the Spirit led me for the same reason. Sounds like this is NOT OF GOD from what you were saying.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      Are you keeping the Sabbath because of the Law of Moses?

      • Janine says:

        No, Same reasons as Sid – Have you read His book, The incomplete Church? I agree with it. It confirmed what I felt. That is exactly how I feel!

        • JohnMcTernan says:

          Great

          • Janine says:

            Sid sent me His mentoring Kit. I’ve been working through that – it has a brochure on the feasts, A One New Man study bible (lots of notes – (you’ve probably seen them on here) and His book, The incomplete church. I also learn from His website. He is my mentor as a believer in our Lord. Good to know you are ok with His teachings. I’ll stick to this then. Thank you John.

      • Janine says:

        I never even knew what the law of Moses was. Im still in Genesis – not up to that yet! I just read the New Testament and Sid’s book and website.

  27. Janine says:

    Ok John. Yes I read these two books over and over and over. This is confusing….The oneness and Trinity – sounds the same to me!
    What does.. The Lord God is One mean?
    It’s the tone in the way you say ‘you concern me in a very serious way’ that comes across as unloving. But I know it’s not your heart. Not to worry.

  28. Janine says:

    Did you receive this John?. Is this ok? It is my undertanding that ‘Nothing is a requirement for us under the law OF MOSES to be saved’ and it never was. Weren’t we always saved by grace through Faith in our Lord? Even back to Abraham! He was saved by grace through faith, not by keeping requirements of the law! We live led by the Spirit as did Abraham – ‘Those who are led by the Spirit, are the sons/daughters of God’. “So now we serve (NOT GET SAVED OR ‘OBTAIN’ RIGHTEOUSNESS) not under [obedience to] the old code of written regulations, but [under obedience to the PROMPTINGS] of the Spirit in newness [of life].” ( Romans 7:6 Amp ). We naturally walk out HIS righteousness that’s in us that He may be glorified!

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      The Jews had to keep the works of the law of Moses by faith and that is where they stumbled.
      They had to keep it, which they felt made them righteous, but it was self-righteous.

  29. Henry says:

    Maybe this is a good way of looking at being obedient to Gods instructions:
    I get a license to drive a car, the “Road Law”, “Road Instructions” say to drive on the left hand side of the road and stop on a red light. It is a blessing to me and others if I obey these “Laws” or “Instructions”
    He says keep My feasts because they are a blessing because they are appointments with God.
    Thanks, just a thought.

    • JohnMcTernan says:

      Henry, I guess you are new to this subject.
      You Jesus Christ is your Savior you keep the Sabbath and feasts everyday.
      The feasts are not a day but a person.
      He is our Sabbath rest. Everyday is a Sabbath when Jesus is our Savior.

  30. Minrod says:

    Evolutionists, You dont find it hard to believe energy has always existed but you find it hard to believe God has always existed. Really smart belief.. Ok, we can see both God and energy but we can see their work and effects. God has changed my life and the life of millions around the world.. ‘cant see God and energy’.